Transgender / Cross Dressers etc. are welcome all year at Hamilton Hall. We do not host lesbian events and never have – not sure where you got that idea from. We have organised special weekends just for TG / CD etc. and hope to do so in the future, but it seems to be a very hard market to get into – maybe you could suggest some places to advertise ?
You are welcome at any time. John He replied:-
Hi John, Could you clarify; your website says that clothes are an option.
”Hamilton Hall is a men only venue offering Dinner, B&B and offers workshops, seminars and chill out periods specializing in sexual, spiritual and self development of mind, body and soul of gay and bisexual men.
It is a clothing optional venue . It is inappropriate to mix the sexes in a venue aimed at naked men, as this would cause embarrasment , distress and sexual confusion for many of those attending.”
How does this work out with the men if my body is still female? With the special weekends for TG/CD, are gay men excluded? David
My answer was:-
Dear David: If your body is still female then you would be asked to keep your clothes on. It does state CLOTHING OPTIONAL – and as a men only venue, and as you are physically still female, clothing would be required. If you still have the appearance of a female – mannerisms, voice, clothing etc. Hamilton Hall would not be right for you as it would make the other guests feel uncomfortable to have a women around – no reason why it should – but we do have to cater the the group setting while also appreciating the individual.
This is not something I have ever needed to clarify as we have never had a pre op female to male transsexual want to go naked in a hotel for men before. All female to male have been dressed and no one has ever known – as it is none of the other guests business and the customer has not seen fit to share that with others, and it has never been a problem.
Does that answer your question. It is absolutely not a reason for concern from me or my staff – and we are hoping to be providing weekends just for those who ‘ dress with style’ - whether pre op or post op, or those who just like to dress accordingly. Hamilton Hall offers a non judgemental attitude towards life, death and the universe and you are very welcome. In Peace John
Thanks John, but I feel discriminated against. I shall take this up with Stonewall. David
I thought all this just a little odd and decided to google his e mail address and discovered that he is a local Bournemouth man and here are some wab pages dedicated to his ramblings against gay marriage and he is not a Transexual / Cross Dresser or any such thing. It is all bullshit and he is a so called 'Christian' who is just trying to stir up trouble. However - I did not bite and he can do exactly what he likes.
Here are some web pages and he is one David Skinner:-
This is a real sign that we are not out of the woods as yet when we assume that because we have laws that protect us, there will not be those who will oppose and deny and damn - using religion as an excuse - and this is the most laughable attempt at - something - I am not sure what - I have heard for a while, as this man is up to something and it is worrying but comical, while at the same time it is the most unenlightened kind of bigotry imaginable and using religion as a tool is delusional and so Un Christian it goes completely against Jesus when - according to that massively edited and manipulated book, it states Jesus as saying -
' Love thy neighbour as thy self.'
It does not say
' Love thy neighbour but not if he is black, lesbian, gay, muslim or anything else that is not white Christian...' -
and this manipulation of the Biblical meaning is what causes trouble and creates disharmony within the church and for the genuine followers who know how wrong this kind of person is to use holy teachings to suit their own bigoted view of reality and does no one any good at all.
These religious groups that claim to speak on behalf of all Christians everywhere - are delusional -
for they do not.
These groups who claim to know EXACTLY what Jesus meant are crack pots as they only know the same as any of us - and that comes from reading the same word in the Bible as anyone else except they misread and mistranslate and misinform themselves as well as others, and that is going against the word of Jesus and God ( if you believe the Bible to be the word of God ) and these people are pure crackers.
Deliberately baiting me about being a transexual women was suspicious in the beginning and this mans actions are very questionable. I wonder exactly where he will go with this from here, as we are quite legal in our Men Only Status and we are quite open and honest in what and whom we are open for - and TV's - CD's - TS's and anyone considered 'odd' by some in society or even ' sick' - or ' weird ' or ' bent ' or ' queer ' or anything else where they feel the mass of society does not accept or understand them - and that what they are is not illegal - not involving children or those under the age of consent or any such thing that may cause emotional and / or physical distress to another - and where they are searching for a place to feel accepted for whom they are and not for the way society assumes they should be - are always welcome here... whether it be a post op transexual or a man who likes to dress in daipers and do no harm to anyone. It makes no difference to me as long as no harm is done to others and it is morally okay.
Jew, Christian, Muslim, gay or straight, man or women. I care about people in general and if someone is being persecuted for no fault of their own and where they have done nothing illegal or immoral and no child was involved or innocent bystander hurt in any way - then they are welcome to ask their questions and where we can, offer some answers in order to help find peace and self worth within.
No Christian - No jew - No one has the right to deny someone else the right to life - and to living it their own way - and only those who then add child abuse or any such illegal and immoral act into the equasion need to look at why they bring these things into a subject matter that does not have these things in, as to WHY they are SO hooked up on child abuse etc. and have the need to throw this at everyone they do not agree with,- as a weapon to ' get them' - and this is evil as evil can be. Using damnation of an innocent soul to prop themselves and their belief structure up from failureand to garner attention for themselves and their distorted view of Biblical / religious writings and what they personally believe it to mean, is unenlightened and disgraceful.
It is dangerous as it is disgraceful that there are those who are that naive as to follow and believe these distorted peoples world view and it saddens me that these people use religion to back up their bigotry.
The good Lord of ALL religions would be appalled - disgusted - at men like David Skinner and the clap trap he rants and his manipulative attempts to try and scare others with his silly little e mails claiming to be a pre op female to male transexual.
So;- to end with a note to David Skinner -
' I shall pray for God to forgive your misguided stance against anything you feel is wrong, but that - as I am one of God's creations - and which you personally find fault with;- and that means you disagree with God and his mighty creation;- and where I know God will forgive you your unenlightened manner, I also forgive you and hope you find a journey forward with the light and the joys of love in your heart and not the bitter twisted man you seem to have grown into through your misguided readings of the teachings of the Bible. I hope you can find some more positive truths and stop finding fault with everyone and everything and find the joy in God's creation of man and women, in all its forms and in all its differences, as anything else is denying God and that, dear David Skinner, is not very Christian of you.'
I loved the display box above about how gay soldiers need to change diapers because, presumably, they crap themselves all the time. People who think this are bonkers. People who actually say these things out loud are just making a mockery out of themselves and those who follow - as to be honest - who the hell believes such clap trap - who in all honesty thinks that gay men all wear diapers because they shit themselves all the time and who in their right mind would even say such a thing out loud - other than a complete moron.
Thomas Cook, the tour operator, has shown us what corporate power has to offer when an accident kills two small children and how, when it comes down to it, they don't give a fuck in hell about the pain and anguish the family have been put through.
They continue, even now, to only apologise after their 9 year disgraceful denial of any reason to apologise, and now only because of public pressure.
Thoman Cook sued the hotel and won over £3 million - half of which paid for their insurance and the other half would have been a profit for Thomas Cook, and the company had full intentions of keeping that money and actually making a profit on the pain and anguish of its customers. It recently donated the money ( £1.5 million ) to UNICEF and did not even think to discuss this with the family of the two children killed and only did so even now, because of public prerssure.
I absolutely beggars belief that in no time during the 9 years since the children were killed by a faulty boiler, did the company think in any way at all, that they needed to show the human side of business and help the family of the deceased and offer sympathy, understanding, counselling and even a free holiday - anything - instead they showed complete and utter indifference and the usual cold hearted and cruel face of corporate business that doesn't give a damn.
The boss - a Mr. Frankhauser has also been heavily critisised for his assertion that Thomas Cook had nothing to apologise for during the coroners inquest into the deaths, and in my view, this is the kind of cold hearted bastard that should not be in charge of any company, and like Murdoch, is unfit to run a public company.
His actions have been disgraceful.
On several occasions guests at Hamilton Hall have been taken ill and needed a day in hospital or a few days in bed here, through no fault of ours - or theirs - as these things just happen sometimes and we always offer a couple of extra days, on us - to relax and get over their few days ill and enjoy a rest before going home. It is - as I believe, a decent thing to offer - from the heart - as I can imagine what it is like to have your few days away spoiled by a ' bad turn' and how thoughtful and kind of any venue for accepting this and 'being there' for them.
Naturally, we always say that you need to take out Holiday Insurance in case of anything happening - like a cancelled flight, a broken down car, ill health or anything - and that is up to the customer to organise and has nothing to do with us, but when going away for a weekend or a few days, - who bothers ? In the case of 2 children dying, no insurance payout is going to bring them back or make you feel better and a gesture from Thoman Cook, right back at the beginning - a kind word, a thoughtful gesture, an understanding and sympathetic ANYTHING - would have gone a long long way,- but instead they decided to hard ball the family, show themselves to be cold hearted bastards and in the end, it cost Thomas Cook massively in negative media coverage where the public have shown their disgrace for Thomas Cook - Mr. Frankhauserand the manner in which he saw no reason to apologise.
It truly beggars belief and I am sure millions of people around the world will now look at Thomas Cook and decide to go elsewhere, as who wants to use a company that so obviously has no interest in its customers well being and just wants their money. Thomas Cook would be turning in his grave if he saw what Mr. Frankhauser had done with his company, especially as it is so easy to be kind - so easy to be thoughtful of others and so easy to be sympathetic - especially when parents have lost their 2 children. It comes naturally to most of us and with little effort, yet it seems corporate power knows nothing of their humanity and I am sure Mr. Frankhauser's mother is ashamed and appalled at her little boys behaviour as I am sure she brought him up with better manners and more thought for others.
THOMAS COOK - IN THIS INSTANCE - YOU DISGUST ME.
IS THIS THE KIND OF WORLD
WE ARE HEADED FOR ?
A 9 year old boy at St. George's Bickley CE School was seen playing knights and dragons in the playground and was using a ruler as a make believe sword, and the head teacher called the police and the boy and his mother were interviewed concerning this.What absolutely beggars belief, is that on the schools web site - the shield and picture below are detailed and is a sword wielding man fighting a dragon - and yet when a young boy of 9 plays at precisely this, the police get called and if we are to find fault - change the schools shield for a posey of flowers or a sunset - as it completely beggars belief.
ABSOLUTE MADNESS. NOTHING MORE THAN BULLYING BY THE STATE.
I read this report on the Metro newspapers website, which I read daily, and was absolutely stunned that a 9 year old boy - when seen playing with a ruler as a fake sword, is seen as a threat and the police have to be called - as if the police have nothing else better to do.
This disgraceful behaviour by the school and most of all by the Head teacher - Geraldine Shackelton, sends a very loud message about how our children are not allowed an imagination;- not allowed to play freely;- not allowed to copy what we see - and children will be children, and they will play at war games, dragons and demons, rough stuff and tough stuff as that is what they see on the TV:- that is what is popular culturally and that is exactly what adults are doing all the time - war war and more war - bitching and fighting - lying and cheating during a general election - soap operas with slanging matches between people and there are very little role models left for children to look up and aspire to as everyone is afraid - afraid they will be cast as an evil doer - a peadophile - a pervert - just because they are good people with no hidden agendas and just want to help - and other than footballers who often do not set a good example, children have no good role models left any more.
Even Spongebob Squarepants - a hugely popular and awarded childrens programme loved by millions of children around the world - and despite its widespread popularity, the series has been involved in several public controversies, including one centered on speculation over SpongeBob's intended sexual orientation;- ( I despair - it's a cartoon for God's sake ) and the Telly Tubbies where an adult complained because one had a handbag and therefore must have been gay - and we look at these occurances and the adults who complain and we must see clearly here folks - we must start seeing clearly and truthfully, that it is the adults that have the problems and by using the police and causing such trouble for a young boy who should be encouraged for using his imagination in play - are creating and harvesting nothing but trouble for the next generation who will grow up afraid to play in case they make the wrong move and someone reads it all wrong - afraid to speak up in case they say the wrong thing - afraid to be creative in case they are labeled gay or even a perv. - and afraid to do and say anything in case the state comes down on them.
I was stunned that this happened in the UK as it is the kind of thing we see happening in America all the time - but remember a friend who was a Deputy Head of a failing school back in the mid 1990's - in London - and who was put into the school to help sort it out, and he was reported for touching one of the girl students - ( he is an out gay man and everyone knew he was gay ) and within 30 minutes it as realized it was untrue as he was in a staff meeting with 30 other teachers at the time the girl said he was with her - so everyone knew it was a lie by the girl to gain attention, but he was still investigated and laid off work for 18 months with full pay ( and full stress ) and the council spent over £250,000 investigating what was known within minutes to be a lie - and the abuse was compounded by the very institution aimed at protecting those it abuses.
If we are to follow this onwards, and if we allow this sort of abuse to continue - abuse that comes from the state and mad people allowed to hold powerful positions of authority, then the next generation will be fucked up and we stand little chance of a stable, sensible, educated and nurtured generation to come, and will have a generation of scared, intimidated and underdeveloped people bringing up our next generation - and that spells even more problems ahead.
Let children play, and monitor their play, but for goodness sake, the adults need to lighten up - grow up - and relax. Not every childrens game is one of a future terrorist - ( and besides, it is our government that causes and creates terrorists by its very actions of being the bully around the world in order to gain access to the oil and gas etc. ) and we need to allow our children to use their imagination in fun and laughter - and foster happy children. Not scared ones.
May 22nd - 25th 2015
Bank Holiday Weekend
Very excited about our Eurovision Cabaret weekend with a full weekend planned. So if you click on the picture to the left it will take you to a page which gives you all the details, and we are going to have a fun weekend planned, games and prizes, quiz, cabaret, karaoke - the works.
So if you thiunk you know a little about the Eurovision Contect, aome and pit your skills against others and see who gets to take home the prize.
This could be one of the campest evenings of the year.
I remember as far back as when Katie Boyle hosted and she spoke 5 or 6 languages, I think just enough to 'get by' and we were so impressed..... and there was probably only a dozen countries taking part and as we now have Australia taking part, it does make me thing WTF is going on. It has changed beyond all recognition and is very politically biased and not all about the song or the performer.
SO COME AND JOIN US FOR THIS SPECTACULAR WEEKEND AND HAVE A SING ALONG. MORE HERE
After a week of lovely weather we had rain this morning and
I am sitting here in the office listening to birds singing outside - and it is a joyous sound.
CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE
HAMILTON HALL 2014
I often see these awards and think - well - who voted that the best pub / club / gay venue - as no one asked me and who voted it the best ??? ... and consider it all a load of bollocks to get you to spend more money in their bar. Trip Advisor;- while I say they are tossers and a waste of time - this certificate of excellence is an award because of the amount of positive feedback we have received from those who have stayed here and THAT is wonderful and I am proud and thrilled about that. Compared to many other venues, we could easily be a 3 or 4 star B&B but I do not buy into the tourist board schemes which - again - are just money spinners for the council - and I do not waste my money with something that has such little meaning.
66% of visitors attend alone.
22% attend with a partner / friend
6% come on business
New Year Joke:
When I found out I was Bi Polar, I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
I ordered this movie from Gays the Word Bookshop in London ( HERE) after a customer suggested it and I have not cried as much while watching a movie as I did last night. Filled with sweet tender moments that make you ' fill up' and several times when the tears really flowed - as the story of a group of gay men and lesbians decide to collect money and support the coal miners during the Thatcher period of destroying the Miners Union back in the 1980's and the ' coming together' of people from very different communities - 1) Coal Miners - 2) Gay Men and Lesbians - and the acceptance and rewards that these very different communities find through a battle with authorities for acceptance of a way of life and to keep their mines open.
With those from the gay community understanding persecution and bigotry only too well, they appreciate and value what the miners are going through fighting the Thatcher government for the right to keep their livlihoods and their communities up and running. Gay men have fought for decades for acceptance in law ( which we tend to take for granted now we have all we fought for ) but these were the days when GAY PRIDE MARCHES were political and had a powerful message about equality and not the Mardi Gras celebration of - er - what exactly ??? - as it is these days up and down the country and the London Gay Pride marches of the 1980's were London based - and tens of thousands would attend from all over the country. We had a common goal we shared - about acceptance and a change in the law - and the way these gay men and lesbians took it upon themselves to raise funds and moral for the miners - is breath taking - and I did cry - several times.
I found this film to be very moving and as I am old enough to remember the onset of HIV and Aids and all that was ' going down' in the mid '80's, this film is well worth a visit and have a big box of Kleenex handy, oh and you will laugh out loud as well - as there are many very funny scenes.
With some familiar faces - this well produced and executed story keeps its point and keeps you watching. Not too ' over the top' and certainly not too preachy about gay rights - it hit the nail right on the head and combined the difficulties of being a member of the gay /. lesbian community and a member of a small mining community and a coming together of real opposites with a common goal, and from this coming together, acceptance and love prevaile.
I shall certainly be watching this film a lot with customers here at Hammy Hall and shall certainly now be ordering at least another dozen copies from GAYS THE WORD BOOK SHOP - as they helped - back in the '80's - by offering the group of fund raisers to use their facilities in the shop and I would rather spend my money buying the DVD from them than Amazon.
Tony Bray died just before Christmas 2014, and I shall miss him. He was a good and dear friend who visited and loved Hamilton Hall and would sit in the Conservatory meeting and greeting people as they came and went and everyone loved his peaceful and charming manner. He was 79 years of age and a real sweetheart. He will be missed, dearly missed.
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