Why I Now Feel Depressed About Charlie Kirk’s Death
- gaymen2
- Sep 15
- 5 min read
Written by Sam.
Copied from Quora 'on line,'
Charlie Kirk was not a good guy.

I think anyone with half a heart can understand that. He died doing what he loved: spewing hate.
And I’m not going to sit here and do the pearl-clutching thing either. His death may have been necessary. I don’t know. I can’t possibly know that.
I am not an advocate for violence, especially political violence. It should come as no surprise then, that Kirk died BECAUSE he was an advocate for political violence, not because he was against it. Sure, he’s against political violence when it’s done TO HIM but then in the same breath he will advocate for a number of policies that result in the deaths of millions.
I don’t feel depressed about Kirk’s death because he was a good person. He wasn’t. Rather, I feel depressed because things should have never gotten to the point where his death might have been necessary. And Kirk himself was an advocate for the type of violence that got him killed. If Kirk had had more imagination, more empathy, he would have realised that maybe one day, that Democrat whose death he was mocking could have been him. But alas, empathy was a “sin” to Kirk, in his own words.
People angry at the shooter are blaming the symptom of the disease, not the cause. Charlie Kirk caused his own death with the life he lead. He chose this.

So no, I don’t feel sorry for Kirk, or the way he died, but I do feel depressed about it. I think conservatives need to take a hard look at the ways in which Kirk is directly responsible for his own death. His entire career was centred around stoking hate and political violence - one should not be surprised when it happens to them. But I know they’re not going to do that, because conservatives are allergic to self-reflection.
Kirk’s death was completely preventable, and yet he continued to spew hatred right up until his last breath. It’s not that I feel sorry for Kirk, because I don’t, it’s that I don’t think, even dead, if he was somewhere in heaven or hell, that he would be capable of that kind of self-reflection. That’s what depresses me.
Kirk could have chosen to live his life differently, but he didn’t. Now he’s dead. And he’s no more sorry than he was before.
Sam:
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JOHN BELLAMY RESPONDS :-
People will remember you after death in many ways.

Some with compassion and love and others with gratitude you have passed as not everyone feels the same about you and we all have those who dislike us. In normal life, that's up to them and 'fuck 'em.' If they do not like me, then tough on them, they don't know me. BUT , when you tour the country visiting universities and putting out news items on political ideology that limits people, that hinders their growth and takes command over your daily lives with the threat of violence;- where women loose the rights over their own bodies and LGBT / blacks/hispanics and many minority groups are put under threat of violence just by your very words - which is what Kirk did along with Trump and all his henchmen - breaking the law at every turn and bullying the courts and people to do and say and behave in a manner that is destroying the very fabric of American soceity - then I also feel absolutely no sympathy for the man himself, none at all, more for his wife and kids left behind. You see, when you use your intelligence to limit and destroy others;- When you deliberately belittle others and when you sow the kind of hatred that seems currently acceptable - then you pay the price when others disagree with you and when you live in a soceity of guns that you promote through your own voice and your own rhetoric, then you paint a very big target on your back for the haters and tragically in a cuntry filled with guns, there will always be someone willing to take a pop shot at you and in this case, with Trump and now Kirk, both shooters were REPUBLICAN AND LIVED IN REPUBLICAN STATES.

I am appalled he was murdered as every one is allowed a voice - however evil and destructive it may be, as I am appaled at all the murders at the hands of the cops, and the politicians stiring up trouble between communities and just like Hitler, dividing people making it easier to conquor.
Trump and his followers are destroying America. We can see it. The world can see it. Billions of people are watching as the 'not so' United States of America implode slowly and take billions of people, and trillions of $ down the proverbial toilet pan - followed by a large helping of utter global disgust.
What I do know is that Trump doesn't give a damn about Charlie Kirk - he just mourns loosing a fellow advocate of hate - and will use this as ammunition to strengthen his war against the USA, his war against his haters and his war against the world, for this fat orange man with no dick and a wife he has to pay even to be in the same room as him and is considered by BILLIONS to be no better than Hitler, will use this all to his own advantage and will threaten more violence, not less, and will stir up his followers and this will not be the end people, this is just the begining of Trumps hatred for the people of America and I fear it will get a lot worse before it gets any better.

And the world has 4 more years of this psychopath and I desperately feel for the good people of America who's lives and jobs are being destroyed, who live in fear, who are being rounded up and who are being threatened by the very cuntry that was designed to take in ' the tired, the poor, the huddled masses yearning to breath FREE' and where it promises to 'Lift my lamp beside the golden door.' - meaning - a safe place of entry into the land of gold and honey and safety, and isn't that a crock of shit these days. America, offering a safe place for immigrants, where after 20, 30 and 40 years living, working, raising kids and building a business and a life, and then ICE agents deem you unwanted and you are shackled with chains and dragged away to God Knows Where and this inhumane treatment, is so from Hitlers rule book it sends the message LOUD AND CLEAR - that we learned nothing from the experience of Hitler.
Here we are all over again dealing with another world changing dictator tyrant acting just like Hitler and this time, so far, doing it through Trade Wars, but if pushed, if cornered, if threatened enough, Trump WILL come out guns blazing and I am NOT talking metaphorically, but he will cause and create any reason to go to war with some one somewhere and it will not end well for the planet and its 8 billion residence.
John Bellamy
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